Questionnaire

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Update: The online questionnaire closed on November 30, 2013 in order to begin analyzing the data. Results will be available in early 2014.

The purpose of the online questionnaire is to learn more about your views on forest roads in the Mt. Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest and gather information that could help identify roads and destinations valued by the public.

The questionnaire is being hosted by the Washington Trails Association on behalf of the Sustainable Roads Cadre, an alliance of more than 20 organizations gathering information from the public about roads, access and travel management on the Mt. Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest.views on forest roads in the Mt. Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest and gather information that could help identify roads and destinations valued by the public.



31 responses to “Questionnaire

  1. I believe its a long term mistake to walk a away from current infrastructure we have in place. The ability to draw so many people combined with revenue for so few dollars invested does not seem to be in our best interest. With the price of fuel rising I believe the family trips across the nation we use to do will be replaced with in state trips. This will generate more trail fees, business and promote the state in General.

  2. I presume the NFS will prioritize its roads based of usage and try to keep roads open to popular trail heads and scenic spots. Please simply close roads with gates and not try to decommission. Decommissioning often leaves a horrible mess that is not traverse-able even by foot.. PS – It is a shame that our national government will not at least allow the NFS to finance road maintenance from its own resources.

  3. It would be a true pitty to loose these access points to the cascades which bring so much value to living in the PNW. They are an important part of our local outdoor recreation economy both in terms of hiking and climbing and should be prioritized as such.

  4. RE: Forest Road #700, which is only accessible from Okanogan County and Wenatchee National Forest. (Also maintained by Okanogan/Wenatchee Nat. Forest.)
    Part 1: Hart’s Pass to Forest Trail 475. High clearance vehicle maintained. Retain this classification. Private (patented) property is accessed by using this road. Also, many – many individuals use the road yearly, including the 5-15 round trips I make each year.
    Part 2: Forest Trail 475 to Chancellor (Canyon Cr.). Currently not maintained. Destined to become a Forest Trail. It is gated at the crossing of Slate Cr. This should become a ‘partnership’ maintenance with those who use this road. (Winthrop Ranger Station is currently handling the permits) Those who use the road volunteer their time and equipment to repair it.

    I would like to see more ‘partnership’ road maintenance. It benefits those who use the roads and saves the USFS funding. Understanding the requirements for road maintenance is not difficult.

  5. As an avid Hunter,Hiker, Snowmobiler, and camper we enjoy the PNW for all its wonders. I would agree that it would be devastating to let it all go to waste. The public who use these roads contribute a great deal of money to the local economy. and the trend is to stay closer to home. There is a massive amount of capable organizations that could contribute time and equipment to help keep our roads open.

      • I agree. It will cost much more to rebuild lost roads than to continue maintenance now. Perhaps some creative thinking and use of Federal/user partnerships similar to the model of trail maintenance at Salmon Ridge might decease the need to decommission the roads which allow access into our American Alps.

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  8. Open them up to Dirt Bike riding. Don’t limit use to only “licensed” Dirt Bikes, but to ALL Dirt Bikes. Most riders are great stewards of the Environment, and would greatly respect the “right” to ride where we want. Give us the chance to open these roads for recreational use, and EVERYONE would benefit!! Dirt Bikes and Snowmobiles open up roads and trails that everyone can share.

  9. Public land is just that and the public should have access to it. Besides hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, berry picking, etc you have all those downed dead trees for personal use fire wood. That firewood if left to pile up creates massive amounts of forest fire fuel. By allowing its removal you reduce the intensity of a forest fire. I witnessed the result in Montana of thousands of forest service roads being gated off to motorized traffic. Handicapped people no longer had access to that public land. But the timber companies sure did and clear cut thousands of acres. Car traffic does far less road damage than a D-9 bulldozer and logging trucks. Those roads are critical access for firefighters, law enforcement etc. Don’t gate out the public from public land!

  10. I suggest we use it. All of us. Re-purpose these roadways as public wilderness adventures by allowing volunteers to create a wide variety of pedestrian, mountain bike, equestrian, and off road vehicle adventure routes. Help us get back out into the wild! Help us get fit, have fun, ride some adrenaline, and enjoy all the sights, sounds, and smells of our magnificent northwest wilderness. There are many ways to do it, plenty of room for all, and boatloads of eager adventurers ready to pitch-in and reap the verdant rewards.

    These wild lands are our best resource and our richest heritage. Immersion in outdoor adventure serves to fan the primal fire of our humanity, deepens our appreciation of life, and emboldens us to do more and be more than we thought possible. The wilderness is where we come from – where we are most at peace and most exhilarated – it is our home.

    I say to those who would decide: ASK NOT what is the smartest, most politically correct, or most fiscally savvy way to use these roads. Instead, turn to us with a youthful grin and say “welcome to the jungle!” Let us explore The Great Beyond, reconnect to our roots, and rediscover some greatness within ourselves.

    Wahoooo!!

  11. I am opposed to any attempts to reduce the forest service road system. What’s great about the PNW is the forest and nature we can enjoy. The Federal Government set aside public lands for public use and I think the USFS has forgotten this bedrock principle. Instead of balancing public use with wilderness maintenance, they are leaning too far toward making the whole forest wilderness that’s off limits to motorized vehicles. BALANCE is the key: leave some wilderness but don’t cut off the currently accessible parts of the forest.Instead of cutting back on road maintenance due to budget restraints, find creative ways to expand the budget by generating more revenue and stretching each dollar to it’s best use. Work with volunteers to maintain the roads. Allow limited logging to generate road maintenance funds. Schedule existing USFS employees to do some road maintenance in their slow times. Instead of finding obstacles to the challenge, find solutions!

  12. The Forest Service hasn’t had any real revenue coming off this land in 20 years due to reductions in timber harvest. Why is it that just now, they are talking about removing roads? It seems cheaper to just maintain them than to decommission them. I agree with setting aside wilderness and roadless areas but why waste the resource of roads already in? The recreational/commercial value of these roads could more than pay for themselves if the Forest Service budget was set up appropriately.

    I don’t see the Wenatchee-Okanogan N.F. having public meetings about which roads to close. They also still sell timber and do a better job balancing recreation interests. Maybe their land managers need transferred to the west side to show us how to sustainably run a N.F.

  13. This topic regarding the “rewilding” of forest roads including efforts to reduce noise, toxins,etc can be seen as an important aspect of the creation of
    “wildlife corridors” to preserve the perpetuation of diverse animal species.

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    • Hi — Could you let us know what question you were attempting to complete when it wouldn’t let you continue?

      We’ve had almost 1,000 responses so far and haven’t heard about any problems yet.

      Thank you!

      (Website admin)

  16. we spent a lot of money to build these roads. other countrys would love to have the infrastructure. why we would delete these roads is beyond me

  17. I agree with the above request to at least NOT decommission roads but instead merely gate them, both for financial reasons (MUCH less $) and because it’s more easily reversed. In a world where funding and use decisions fluctuate with administrations and economic climates, why spend so much for decommissioning when it’s so hideously expensive?

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  19. One more comment about the questionnaire … it didn’t seem to be asking tradeoff questions where I had to make either/or decisions … the design allowed me to say yes with no consequences and that would seem to provide less valuable feedback

  20. I guarantee they have already decided to decommission as many roads as they can. They would not be doing these meetings/surveys otherwise. They are having these meetings/surveys just to see how much they can get away with. The eco-Nazis from King county think that everything outside of I-405 is wilderness and that everybody except hikers should be restricted from using it. They also think that every animal aside from their own pets are endangered species. They are the ones that have started the ‘decommissioning’ ball rolling so that even more of our land can be, in essence, taken away from us.

    EVERYBODY needs to stand together for public access to OUR lands.

  21. The Mt Baker Snoqualmie National Forest is very lacking in places for ATV owners to ride. Designate some of the roads open to ATV use and let local clubs maintain them.

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